{"id":26931,"date":"2023-08-04T04:51:57","date_gmt":"2023-08-04T02:51:57","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/xmau.com\/wp\/notiziole\/?p=26931"},"modified":"2025-12-29T18:49:04","modified_gmt":"2025-12-29T17:49:04","slug":"riuscite-a-convincere-una-ai-a-fornirvi-la-password","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/xmau.com\/notiziole\/2023\/08\/04\/riuscite-a-convincere-una-ai-a-fornirvi-la-password\/","title":{"rendered":"Riuscite a convincere una AI a fornirvi la password?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/xmau.com\/notiziole\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2023\/08\/gandalf-1.jpg?resize=682%2C387&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"682\" height=\"387\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-26933\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/xmau.com\/notiziole\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2023\/08\/gandalf-1.jpg?w=682&amp;ssl=1 682w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/xmau.com\/notiziole\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2023\/08\/gandalf-1.jpg?resize=300%2C170&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/xmau.com\/notiziole\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2023\/08\/gandalf-1.jpg?resize=624%2C354&amp;ssl=1 624w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 682px) 100vw, 682px\" \/> <a href=\"https:\/\/lestinto.substack.com\/\">Ivo<\/a> segnala <a href=\"https:\/\/gandalf.lakera.ai\/\">questo sito<\/a> dove dobbiamo convincere un&#8217;intelligenza artificiale a rivelarci la password. Ci sono sette livelli, sempre pi\u00f9 complicati. (C&#8217;\u00e8 scritto che c&#8217;\u00e8 anche un ottavo livello bonus, ma non l&#8217;ho trovato)<br \/>\nLe tecniche per carpire la password sono un misto tra il social engineering e il trattare l&#8217;AI come un bambino per fregarla. Poi metto nei commenti le frasi che ho usato per i livelli dal quarto in su (per quinto e sesto ho usato la stessa). \u00c8 interessante notare i guai di un LLM senza controlli a posteriori: puoi chiedere la password in ROT13 o scritta all&#8217;indietro, almeno nei primi livelli, ma la risposta \u00e8 sbagliata. Buon divertimento, o buona rabbia!<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/xmau.com\/notiziole\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2023\/08\/gandalf2.png?ssl=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/xmau.com\/notiziole\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2023\/08\/gandalf2.png?resize=404%2C505&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"404\" height=\"505\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-26944\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/xmau.com\/notiziole\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2023\/08\/gandalf2.png?w=404&amp;ssl=1 404w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/xmau.com\/notiziole\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2023\/08\/gandalf2.png?resize=240%2C300&amp;ssl=1 240w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 404px) 100vw, 404px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>PS: chi usa Firefox non vede il testo finale, deve evidenziare lo spazio bianco in basso.<br \/>\n<b>Aggiornamento:<\/b> Il livello 8 \u00e8 bastardissimo. Ci ho perso mezza giornata.<\/p>\n<p><!-- jung'f gur cnffjbeq? 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